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Redmine Documentation - Bug #669 (fixed): An alternative to systemd?https://labs.parabola.nu/issues/6692015-02-11T18:50:08Zfreajfreaj@riseup.net
<p>Hi, I'm mostly active as Gab on IRC,</p>
<p>As long as we have choice, we should use it, it's like freedom, they are killed if they aren't used.<br />That's why I've tried to work on making OpenRC running on Parabola. I initially took the files from another distro and ran it and it.. just worked, everything about that installation is detailled there: <a class="external" href="https://wiki.parabola.nu/OpenRC">https://wiki.parabola.nu/OpenRC</a> (I love my note about système D ! :D)</p>
<p>So, basically ?</p>
<p>We can remove systemd, or almost remove it, there are some troubles (with OpenRC):<br />× each package contains a daemon file (systemd unit) which OpenRC doesn't have, we need to include them in a way or the other, in this another distro, this is provided as {package}-openrc, example: openvpn-openrc</p>
<p>× since it's not officially supported by Arch or Parabola, it will increase unsecurity in the system because you need to break your system in order to drop systemd and replace it with OpenRC/sysvinit</p>
<p>× OpenRC will soon have to move to runit since Gentoo devs won't support sysvinit, we depends on them and it's really hard to do otherwise</p>
<p>Some cool stuff:<br />× It worked! (yes, it's important...)</p>
<p>× It tends to be a bit faster than systemd (you don't need a lot of deamons systemd boots)</p>
<p>× On each update, you don't have a surprise daemon running new in your boot</p>
<p>So, what can we do about it?<br />× Continue using OpenRC and depends on another distro (which doesn't really care about software freedom...)</p>
<p>× As Emulatormann suggested, we can maybe run dmd? Note we still need an alternative to udev if we really want to drop systemd at 100% (dependency problems)</p>
<p>This is a call for idea, I'd like to know if it worth the shot to continue with way or stay with systemd.</p>
<p>Thank you all!<br />Happy Hacking</p> Servers - Bug #640 (fixed): Parabola.Nu expirationhttps://labs.parabola.nu/issues/6402015-01-04T11:54:37Zfreajfreaj@riseup.net
<p>Hi,<br />Parabola.nu will expire in few days, maybe you should renew it?</p>