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Freedom Issue #1433

Youtube-dl runs nonfree software

Anonymous - over 6 years ago - . Updated about 5 years ago.

Status:
not-a-bug
Priority:
freedom issue
Assignee:
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% Done:

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Description

Hi guys, it has been found that youtube-dl contains ofuscated code to download some videos with DRM from Youtube. Youtube-dl incorporates JS, SWF, and SDK interpreters in order to deliver some functionality. However, packaging these runs contrary to delivering freedom as a number 1 priority.

In replacement I propose avideo, https://notabug.org/GPast/avideo

History

#1

Updated by Anonymous over 6 years ago

  • Subject changed from youtube-dl to youtube-dl not Free
#2

Updated by Anonymous over 6 years ago

  • Subject changed from youtube-dl not Free to Youtube-dl runs nonfree software
#3

Updated by isacdaavid over 6 years ago

i'm not convinced this is an issue. being able to run nonfree programs if the user explicitly points at them isn't in violation of anything. many browsers in our repos don't even come with LibreJS, and are just as capable of accepting proprietary javascript, flash, java; even plugins for DRM.

i think the real value in this discovery comes from the realization that we can no longer recommend using Youtube through youtube-dl, except perhaps for specific videos that we know won't lead youtube-dl to download and execute nonfree javascript.

that said, that's no reason to not accept avideo. avideo is to youtube-dl what Icecat+LibreJS is to... let's say konqueror or ephiphany.

#4

Updated by isacdaavid over 6 years ago

isacdaavid wrote:

i think the real value in this discovery comes from the realization that we can no longer recommend using Youtube through youtube-dl, except perhaps for specific videos that we know won't lead youtube-dl to download and execute nonfree javascript.

it's actually less problematic than that. according to this mail, the Youtube script in question is so trivial that even LibreJS would let it pass.

#5

Updated by Megver83 over 6 years ago

isacdaavid wrote:

isacdaavid wrote:

i think the real value in this discovery comes from the realization that we can no longer recommend using Youtube through youtube-dl, except perhaps for specific videos that we know won't lead youtube-dl to download and execute nonfree javascript.

it's actually less problematic than that. according to this mail, the Youtube script in question is so trivial that even LibreJS would let it pass.

could be, youtube-dl also supports other websites, and not all of them might run nonfree JS.

many browsers in our repos don't even come with LibreJS, and are just as capable of accepting proprietary javascript, flash, java; even plugins for DRM.

Yes, youtube-dl could be considered like a web browser (downloader in this case) for videos. The bad thing of these is that, afaik, there aren't any plugins or extension to block JS in general for youtube-dl (different from Iceweasel, for ex., where we have LibreJS and NoScript) at the time of downloading videos.

#6

Updated by bill-auger about 5 years ago

  • Status changed from open to not-a-bug

this general accusation has come up again and again and AFAIK it has been disproved

https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/gnu-linux-libre/2017-04/msg00001.html

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