https://labs.parabola.nu/https://labs.parabola.nu/favicon.ico?15367742552018-04-19T12:14:20ZParabola Issue TrackerPackages - Freedom Issue #1745: [warsow] non free softwarehttps://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1745?journal_id=91932018-04-19T12:14:20Zbill-auger
<ul><li><strong>Status</strong> changed from <i>open</i> to <i>info needed</i></li></ul><p>can you demonstrate this claim please ?</p> Packages - Freedom Issue #1745: [warsow] non free softwarehttps://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1745?journal_id=91982018-04-19T12:27:25Zaniani@fsfe.org
<ul></ul><p>You can demonstrate it yourself by a search on the internet. <a class="external" href="https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Z--Warsow">https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Z--Warsow</a></p> Packages - Freedom Issue #1745: [warsow] non free softwarehttps://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1745?journal_id=92062018-04-19T12:49:18Zbill-auger
<ul></ul><p>i mean how do you know it's art is non-free ?</p>
<p>that link you gave is to the FSF official free software directory - if the art is not distributable then it needs to be removed from that site also - if it is distributable but not "free culture" then it should be removed from parabola - but i would like to see some example to prove this claim</p> Packages - Freedom Issue #1745: [warsow] non free softwarehttps://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1745?journal_id=92082018-04-19T13:02:03Zbill-auger
<ul></ul><p>looking at the files list<sup><a href="#fn1">1</a></sup> there is literally only one distinct image in the binary package - probably a desktop icon - unless the images you are referring to are compiled into an object file they are probably being downloaded from the network each time you play the game; in which case, parabola is not distributing them so there is probably no freedom issue here</p>
<p><a class="external" href="https://www.parabola.nu/packages/community/x86_64/warsow/">https://www.parabola.nu/packages/community/x86_64/warsow/</a></p> Packages - Freedom Issue #1745: [warsow] non free softwarehttps://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1745?journal_id=92162018-04-19T13:43:08Zaniani@fsfe.org
<ul></ul><p>Go ahead and use the unzip binary to extract the *.pk3 and see the artwork. You can also go to warsow.net</p> Packages - Freedom Issue #1745: [warsow] non free softwarehttps://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1745?journal_id=92302018-04-21T04:40:47Zaniani@fsfe.org
<ul></ul><p>More reading about this: <a class="external" href="https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/software/linux-gaming/31515-warsow-1-0-to-be-released-tomorrow?72533-Warsow-1-0-To-Be-Released-Tomorrow=">https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/software/linux-gaming/31515-warsow-1-0-to-be-released-tomorrow?72533-Warsow-1-0-To-Be-Released-Tomorrow=</a></p> Packages - Freedom Issue #1745: [warsow] non free softwarehttps://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1745?journal_id=92692018-04-24T06:38:27Zaniani@fsfe.org
<ul></ul><p>Is there anything else I can help you with?</p> Packages - Freedom Issue #1745: [warsow] non free softwarehttps://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1745?journal_id=92702018-04-24T06:38:42Zaniani@fsfe.org
<ul></ul><p><a class="user active" href="https://labs.parabola.nu/users/282">bill-auger</a></p> Packages - Freedom Issue #1745: [warsow] non free softwarehttps://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1745?journal_id=92732018-04-24T13:47:18Zfreemor
<ul><li><strong>File</strong> <a href="/attachments/353">license.txt</a> <a class="icon-only icon-download" title="Download" href="/attachments/download/353/license.txt">license.txt</a> added</li></ul><p>Pulled the following out of the tar.gz that the PKGBUILD pulls.<br />From what I read assets are CC and thus not an issue.</p>
<p>Worth noting that this file was in /opt/warsow/docs/license.txt if warsow is installed.</p> Packages - Freedom Issue #1745: [warsow] non free softwarehttps://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1745?journal_id=92792018-04-24T16:08:35Zaniani@fsfe.org
<ul></ul><p>Alright I do not believe it until I hear it from a Warsow developer or artist. I would point out that the license.txt contains the words "nonfree" on filenames which contain artwork for the game. Which means the word "nonfree" are both present in the license file and in the file names.</p>
<p>Could you repackage it so it does not contain the words at least, while I am checking with them what really happened since it was very much non free when I played it a few years ago.</p> Packages - Freedom Issue #1745: [warsow] non free softwarehttps://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1745?journal_id=92832018-04-24T17:20:06Zaniani@fsfe.org
<ul></ul><p>More information about the non free assets:</p>
<p><a class="external" href="http://dpaste.com/2KJAH6F">http://dpaste.com/2KJAH6F</a></p>
<p><a class="external" href="http://dpaste.com/2Q38865">http://dpaste.com/2Q38865</a></p>
<p><a class="external" href="http://dpaste.com/00W2J5W">http://dpaste.com/00W2J5W</a></p> Packages - Freedom Issue #1745: [warsow] non free softwarehttps://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1745?journal_id=92842018-04-24T17:33:32Zfreemor
<ul></ul><p>the exceptions are still CC just CC-BY-ND, instead of CC-BY-SA<br />So the question is what is Parabolas stance on ND licenses re artwork</p>
<p>Guess if it comes down to it we could just <code>rm *_nonfree_*</code> in the PKGBUILD</p>
<p>After a bit of wiki reading it seems that the FSDG allows this as long as it is "non-functional data" Which all of these seem to be to me.</p> Packages - Freedom Issue #1745: [warsow] non free softwarehttps://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1745?journal_id=94562018-05-14T04:49:16Zaniani@fsfe.org
<ul></ul><p>The art is functional data in my opinion since the game will not function for you without the maps, sounds, textures, etc.</p> Packages - Freedom Issue #1745: [warsow] non free softwarehttps://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1745?journal_id=102582018-09-11T18:06:54Zaniani@fsfe.org
<ul></ul><p>Any further internal discussions about this?</p> Packages - Freedom Issue #1745: [warsow] non free softwarehttps://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1745?journal_id=102822018-09-15T16:39:35Zaniani@fsfe.org
<ul></ul><p>Info needed?</p> Packages - Freedom Issue #1745: [warsow] non free softwarehttps://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1745?journal_id=103952018-09-25T16:18:43Zaniani@fsfe.org
<ul></ul><p>Can you state and specify the info that is needed by me? Or by whom do you need info?</p> Packages - Freedom Issue #1745: [warsow] non free softwarehttps://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1745?journal_id=104102018-09-26T21:11:45Zpribib
<ul></ul><p>looks like 3 archives of assets are not free culture so should be removed from parabola?</p> Packages - Freedom Issue #1745: [warsow] non free softwarehttps://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1745?journal_id=104182018-09-27T01:08:22Zbill-auger
<ul><li><strong>Status</strong> changed from <i>info needed</i> to <i>in progress</i></li></ul><p>yes - the licensing looks very clear - i suppose this program should be removed - those 3 asset-packs appear to be extensive; they could be removed but i assume the game would either crash or otherwise be quite useless without them</p> Packages - Freedom Issue #1745: [warsow] non free softwarehttps://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1745?journal_id=105812018-10-28T17:32:38Zaniani@fsfe.org
<ul></ul><p>What's the status on this?</p>
<p><a class="user active" href="https://labs.parabola.nu/users/282">bill-auger</a></p> Packages - Freedom Issue #1745: [warsow] non free softwarehttps://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1745?journal_id=116232019-02-27T20:59:42Zaniani@fsfe.org
<ul></ul><p>This package is still in the community repository and I do not see progress.</p>